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Mikail Krochta's avatar

My understanding of "The Cogito" is that Descartes is saying you cannot doubt the very fact that you are thinking, because even doubting that fact would itself be a thought. Therefore, there must be a “you” doing the thinking. In this sense, I agree with some of the other comments that I don’t quite follow your reasoning all the way to non‑existence. I’m not sure that doubting the truth or integrity of your thoughts is the same as doubting the very fact that you are thinking. However, I still think there is a really interesting idea here.

I agree that for someone with some level of self‑awareness and a degree of morality that steers them away from the kind of lying you described, this lack of integrity could cause a sort of fracture within themselves. This might result in a kind of “non‑existence” in the sense that the person loses a strong definition of who they are. They know they believe in certain morals, but they also know they do not act according to those morals. If a person is self‑aware enough to reflect on this, I can see how it could be jarring to their sense of identity.

Along these lines, I also wonder about someone who genuinely does not care that they lie. Someone who lacks integrity in this way might not care or even realize that they tell such lies. For a person like this, I think you could say there is a kind of “non‑existence” in the sense that the person they think they are does not really exist. Their internal definition of themselves does not match the person who actually interacts with the world.

I would love to hear your (or anyone’s) thoughts on these slightly alternative ways that acting without integrity can lead to a loss of existence.

Prasidha's avatar

"The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others."

I believe the instance in which this is most pernicious is in how we choose to spend our time -- and for many of us, that is dominated by our jobs. Similar to the act of lying, the act of doing that which you do not feel best represents you only serves to wither your integrity, for it is parallel to lying as an act against your integrity. The conundrum of today's society is that integrity is so far repressed compared to the benefits of these jobs that you so scorn.

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